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- POLITICS
-
- 1.1) What is alt.current-events.net-abuse, and why was it created?
- 1.2) What is net-abuse? [NEW]
- 1.3) Why does it have such a silly name?
- 1.4) Who's responsible for this FAQ?
- 1.5) Where can I get it?
- 1.6) I don't understand a word of this.
-
- SPAM, SPAMMERS, and MOOSES
-
- 2.1) What is Spam?
- 2.2) Where did the term come from?
- 2.3) Tell me about the Great Spammers.
- 2.4) Who were Canter and Siegel?
- 2.5) Where can I get more info on them?
- 2.6) What should we do about the book?
- 2.7) What was Larry's historic first post to a.c-e.n-a?
- 2.8) That doesn't make any sense. What was Larry's historic second
- post to a.c-e.n-a?
- 2.9) Who is Cancelmoose[tm]?
-
- NITTY-GRITTY
-
- 3.1) Yeah, but how many times is 'X'?
- 3.2) How can I tell if a post is forged?
- 3.3) How do I know when I've got spam on my hands?
- 3.4) OK, I think I've spotted a spam. Who should I mail-bomb?
- 3.5) OK, I think I've spotted a spam. What should I do?
- 3.6) What about e-mail spam?
- 3.7) I e-mailed a complaint to {so-and-so} about their {e-mail, post}
- and now they're threatening to complain to my system administrator.
- What should I do?
- 3.8) What's a cancel-bot?
- 3.9) Where can I get me one?
- 3.10) I've got one; should I cancel {spam X}?
- 3.11) Can I sick The Man on these MAKE.MONEY.FAST losers?
-
- GROAN
-
- 4.1) Why are you a.c-e.n-a people such net-cops?
- 4.2) Hey, I think my newsgroup is being invaded by alt.syntax.tactical!
- 4.3) Hey, somebody posted an ad to <newsgroup>!
- 4.4) Hey, so-and-so's not being nice in <newsgroup>!
- 4.5) Hey, one of those net.cops posted an ad for <something>! Haw! Haw!
-
-
- POLITICS
- ========
-
- 1.1) What is alt.current-events.net-abuse, and why was it created?
-
- Here's the 'charter,' or at least the text from Thomas Koenig's
- newgroup message of April 25, 1994:
-
- alt.current-events.net-abuse is a forum to discuss the current
- net abuses, such as "spamming" of Usenet by the law firm Canter &
- Siegel, and related issues. This disussion, at the moment, takes
- up most of the bandwidth in news.admin.misc and news.admin
- policy, and clearly merits a separate forum.
-
- It was proposed on alt.config in
- <2p8q9s$idl@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, and met no opposition
- there at all.
-
- For your newsgroups file:
- alt.current-events.net-abuse Usenet spamming, Green Card and the like
-
- 1.2) What is net-abuse?
-
- Since the newsgroup's inception, many curious forms of Usenet behavior
- have been discussed on it. Of these, spam is the one most universally
- accepted as 'net-abuse', which is why it gets its own section
- below. Other Frequently Aired Complaints are discussed throughout the
- FAQ.
-
- However, as Neil Pawson says, "it's for abuse *of* the net, NOT abuse
- *on* the net." Just because somebody does something vile, we don't
- necessarily want to hear about it on a.c-e.n-a. To qualify as true
- panic-inspiring net-abuse, an act must interfere with the net-use of a
- large number of people. Examples of this: newsgroup flooding,
- widespread or organized forgery campaigns, widespread or organized
- account hackery, widespread or organized censorship attempts...
-
- 1.3) Why does alt.current-events.net-abuse have such a silly name?
-
- It was/is supposed to be "temporary." Can you imagine, a "temporary"
- newsgroup name? Would you really want to have to go through alt.config
- *twice*? --Note, however, that there's a serious campaign to move
- a.c-e.n-a to the news.* hierarchy; this would make us go through
- news.groups instead. Delight!
-
- 1.4) Who's responsible for this FAQ?
-
- It's maintained by Scott Southwick (scotty@indiana.edu). The
- information has been gleaned from various Usenet sources --primarily
- posts to a.c-e.n-a made by a wide variety of authors-- and so the
- maintainer must actively disclaim all responsibilty for the veracity,
- advisabilty and/or legality of anything contained in the FAQ. Thanks
- to the following people who have contributed to it, or at least
- discussed its contents in a non-threatening manner:
-
- Arthur Byrne, Pekka Pirinen, Keith "Justified and Ancient" Cochran,
- Lamont Granquist, Victoria Fike, J.D. Falk, Steve Patlan, Wilf
- Leblanc, Seth Cohn, Neil Pawson, Bram Cohen, Mitchell Golden, Rahul
- Dhesi, Stephen Boursy, Mary Branscombe, David Cortesi, Alexander
- Lehmann, Greg Lindahl, Jack Hamilton, and several others I have
- undoubtedly missed.
-
- Contributions are always warmly welcomed, as are suggestions,
- corrections and criticism. Unfortunately, the update lag-time has been
- pretty fierce recently.
-
- 1.5) Where can I get it?
-
- The finished version will be posted either bi-weekly or semi-monthly
- (whichever you prefer) to a.c-e.n-a, alt.answers, and news.answers. It
- will also be available by anonymous ftp from rtfm.mit.edu and its
- mirror sites. The sharpest-dressed and most up-to-the-minute version
- will always be available on the Web at
-
- http://www-sc.ucssc.indiana.edu/~scotty/acena.html
-
- If you have trouble with that alias, try
-
- http://jalapeno.ucs.indiana.edu/~scotty/acena.html
-
- 1.6) I don't understand a single word of this.
-
- The best starting place for learning about Usenet is Indiana
- University's Usenet Resources page, at
-
- http://scwww.ucs.indiana.edu/NetRsc/usenet.html
-
- [I put that together at my day-job. This entry is a shameless plug for
- my employers.] It's got links to most Usenet primers, netiquette
- documents and news FAQs, Son-of-RFC-1036, some charters, newsreader
- man pages, &c.
-
-
- SPAM, SPAMMERS, and MOOSES
- ==========================
-
- 2.1) What is Spam?
-
- It's a luncheon meat, kinda pink, comes in a can, made by Hormel. Most
- Americans intuitively, viscerally associate "Spam" with "no nutritive
- or aesthetic value." The luncheon meat has its own newsgroup,
- alt.spam.
-
- The term "spam," as used on this newsgroup, means "the same article
- (or essentially the same article) posted an unacceptably high number
- of times to one or more newsgroups." CONTENT IS IRRELEVANT. 'Spam'
- doesn't mean "ads." It doesn't mean "abuse." It doesn't mean "posts
- whose content I object to." Spam is a funky name for a phenomenon that
- can be measured pretty objectively: did that post appear X times?
- (See: "Yeah, but how many is X?')
-
- There have recently been examples of "customized" spams--where each
- post made some effort to apply to each individual newsgroup, but the
- general thrust of each article was the same. A huge straw poll on
- news.admin.policy, news.admin.misc, and a.c-e.n-a showed that as many
- of 90% of the readers felt that cancellations for these posts were
- justified. So, simply put: if you plan to post the same or similar
- messages to dozens of newsgroups, the posts are probably going to get
- cancelled.
-
- If you feel that a massive multi-post you are planning constitutes an
- exception, you are more than welcome to run the idea past the readers
- of alt.current-events.net-abuse or news.admin.policy for feedback
- first.
-
- It should be noted that cross-posting a single message to many
- newsgroups is definitely *not* considered cancellable spam by those
- who cancel spam. That doesn't mean it's always a swell idea, though,
- and a large cross-post will probably evoke many flames. If you *must*
- cross-post, set the followups to a single appropriate group by adding
- a header line like
-
- Followup-to: group.name.here
-
- This prevents the readers of all the groups from having to deal with
- the thread for weeks afterwards if the readers of only one or two of
- the groups take an interest in it.
-
- 2.2) Where did the term 'Spam' come from?
-
- From the Monty Python song that goes, roughly, "Spam spam spam spam,
- spam spam spam spam, spam spam spam spam..." See?
-
- The term wasn't first used to describe mass news posting, however. See
- the Hacker's Jargon File for previous uses of the word.
-
- 2.3) Tell me about the Great Spammers.
-
- So as not to duplicate effort, here's a couple of excellent archives
- devoted to the various bugbears of the Net:
-
- * The Net.Legends archive (particularly the Net.Legends FAQ)
- gopher://dixie.aiss.uiuc.edu:6969/11/urban.legends/net.legends
-
- * The alt.usenet.kooks Web Page
- ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/ro/cd/auk.html
-
- Not all of the kooks and legends discussed there are spammers, or even
- villains. Spam fans should pay particular attention to the entries on
- Serdar Argic, the spiritual ancestor of today's spammers.
-
- 2.4) Who were Canter and Siegel?
-
- Unfortunately, it's "Who *are* Canter and Siegel?" They're lawyers,
- authors, and Usenet newbies _par excellence_. Super-newbies. Honorary
- Permanent Newbies. When they sit around the net, they sit *around the
- net*...
-
- C+S weren't the first spammers, but they were so gothically clumsy
- about it, and so intent on making a buck, that people were terrified
- and infuriated into starting this newsgroup.
-
- 2.5) Where can I get more information about them?
-
- The best archive of Canter and Siegel-related postings is maintained
- by C&S themselves; last time somebody checked with "ls -r", the
- fun-loving net.lawyers seemed to be storing every post that mentioned
- them (can you say "grepping for libel cases"?)
-
- If you're not C or S yourself, though, the next best info source is
- Thomas Leavitt's "The Canter & Siegel Report," available via anonymous
- ftp from
-
- ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/leavitt/
-
- Those files are zipped. Users with access to 1990s technology should
- check out the WWW versions at
-
- ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/leavitt/html/cands.report.html
- ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/leavitt/html/candsrpt.two.html
- ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/leavitt/html/candsrpt.three.html
-
- There's also a newsgroup, alt.flame.canter-and-siegel. [How's that
- group doing?]
-
- 2.6) What should we do about the book?
-
- What book?
-
- 2.7) What was Larry's historic first post to a.c-e.n-a?
-
- Path: usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!psinntp!cyber.sell.com!lcanter
- From: lcanter@cyber.sell.com (lcanter)
- Subject: Re: Larry and Martha
- Message-ID: <D009w5.Iv0@cyber.sell.com>
- Followup-To: news.admin.misc,news.admin.policy,alt.current-events.net-abuse,alt.fan.joel-furr
- Sender: news@cyber.sell.com (NetNews Administration)
- Organization: CYBERSELL -TM
- X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0]
- References: <19941126d$zbbfr@nospam.nohow.edu> <3b8edh$748@pith.uoregon.edu> <3bc5g3$7hr@decaxp.harvard.edu> <caradoc-2811940848430001@tecate.enet.net> <3bd09p$2nc@news.duke.edu>
- Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 01:38:29 GMT
- Lines: 12
-
- : When Mike Godwin of the Electronic Frontiers Foundation offered the
- : services of the EFF to represent me (this on the heels of literally
- : hundreds of offers of contributions to my non-existent legal defense
- : fund), Canter and Siegel dropped their plans like a hot potato.
-
- ***************************************************
- * Laurence A. Canter lcanter@cyber.sell.com *
- * Cybersell -tm *
- * 10245 E Via Linda, Ste 222 Scottsdale AZ 85258*
- * Telephone (602) 661-5202 Fax (602) 451-7617 *
- ***************************************************
-
- 2.8) That doesn't make any sense. What was Larry's historic second
- post to a.c-e.n-a?
-
- Path: usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!psinntp!cyber.sell.com!lcanter
- From: lcanter@cyber.sell.com (lcanter)
- Subject: Re: Larry and Martha
- Message-ID: <D00FED.KCL@cyber.sell.com>
- Followup-To: news.admin.misc,news.admin.policy,alt.current-events.net-abuse,alt.fan.joel-furr
- Sender: news@cyber.sell.com (NetNews Administration)
- Organization: CYBERSELL -TM
- X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0]
- References: <19941126d$zbbfr@nospam.nohow.edu> <3b8edh$748@pith.uoregon.edu> <3bc5g3$7hr@decaxp.harvard.edu> <caradoc-2811940848430001@tecate.enet.net> <3bd09p$2nc@news.duke.edu>
- Date: Tue, 29 Nov 1994 03:37:25 GMT
- Lines: 15
- Xref: usenet.ucs.indiana.edu news.admin.misc:1941 news.admin.policy:666 alt.current-events.net-abuse:1648
-
- : When Mike Godwin of the Electronic Frontiers Foundation offered the
- : services of the EFF to represent me (this on the heels of literally
- : hundreds of offers of contributions to my non-existent legal defense
- : fund), Canter and Siegel dropped their plans like a hot potato.
-
- Really? This is complete news to us.
-
- --
- ***************************************************
- * Laurence A. Canter lcanter@cyber.sell.com *
- * Cybersell -tm *
- * 10245 E Via Linda, Ste 222 Scottsdale AZ 85258*
- * Telephone (602) 661-5202 Fax (602) 451-7617 *
- ***************************************************
-
- 2.9) Who is Cancelmoose[tm]?
-
- Cancelmoose[tm] is, to misquote some wise poster, "the greatest public
- servant the net has seen in quite some time." He or she sends out
- spam-cancels from a major American provider and then posts notice
- anonymously to news.admin.policy, news.admin.misc, and a.c-e.n-a. The
- Moose stepped to the fore on its own initiative, at a time when
- spam-cancels were irregular and disorganized, and has behaved
- altogether admirably-- fair, even-handed, and quick to respond to
- comments and criticism, all without self-aggrandizement or martyrdom.
- Cancelmoose[tm] appears to have near-unanimous support from the
- readership of all three above-mentioned groups.
-
- Nobody knows who Cancelmoose[tm] really is, and there aren't really
- even any good rumors.
-
- * disclaimer: I never ever speak for IU *
- * *
- * On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog, *
- * until you start barking. *
- Archive-name: net-abuse-faq/part2
- Posting-Frequency: biweekly
-
- [Table of Contents for part two only:]
-
- NITTY-GRITTY
-
- 3.1) Yeah, but how many times is 'X'?
- 3.2) How can I tell if a post is forged?
- 3.3) How do I know when I've got spam on my hands?
- 3.4) OK, I think I've spotted a spam. Who should I mail-bomb?
- 3.5) OK, I think I've spotted a spam. What should I do?
- 3.6) What about e-mail spam?
- 3.7) I e-mailed a complaint to {so-and-so} about their {e-mail, post}
- and now they're threatening to complain to my system administrator.
- What should I do?
- 3.8) What's a cancel-bot?
- 3.9) Where can I get me one?
- 3.10) How do spam-cancellers cancel spam?
- 3.11) Can I sick The Man on these MAKE.MONEY.FAST losers?
-
- GROAN
-
- 4.1) Why are you a.c-e.n-a people such net-cops?
- 4.2) Hey, I think my newsgroup is being invaded by alt.syntax.tactical!
- 4.3) Hey, somebody posted an ad to <newsgroup>!
- 4.4) Hey, so-and-so's not being nice in <newsgroup>!
- 4.5) Hey, one of those net.cops posted an ad for <something>! Haw! Haw!
-
- NITTY-GRITTY
- ============
-
- 3.1) Yeah, but how many times is 'X'?
-
- How many posts does it take to push the spam envelope? To use up all
- your spam charity points? For a bare-bones spam? To trigger the
- auto-cancel-bots-from-Hell?
-
- Among those who agree that spam should be defined solely by quantity,
-
- -----------------> 20 <--------------------
-
- appears to be the magic number, or at least a number so
- middle-of-the-road that it provokes very little passionate dissent in
- either direction. Notably, Cancelmoose[tm] refuses to set a firm
- number, in the belief that people would simply post [X-1]
- messages. It's safe to say that a couple incidents of 19-post spams
- would cause the magic number to plummet. Thus, 20 should be considered
- a vague approximation only.
-
- Passionately dissenting note: Rahul Dhesi [dhesi@rahul.net], one of
- the fathers of the cancel-bot movement, sticks by the following
- definition:
-
- More than five physically distinct postings with substantially
- identical content posted within a period of ten days.
-
- 3.2) How can I tell if a post is forged?
-
- Sometimes it's easy to spot a forgery, sometimes it takes years of
- experience, and unfortunately, sometimes it's just impossible. (Note:
- most newsreaders don't show the entire header. Yours may have a
- command (e.g. 'h' in nn, 'v' in rn and trn, CTRL/h in tin) that allows
- you to see them in their entirety. If it doesn't, save the post to a
- file -- if given the choice, use 'mailbox' format. Then bring that
- file up in an editor.)
-
- For starters, these four sites in the header should agree:
-
- --The From: line, listing the site where the poster is.
-
- --The 'path:' line shows all the sites the message passed thru, on its
- way *to* you (most recent, to oldest). So the poster's site should be
- at (approximately) the end of that path.
-
- --The last part of the 'message ID,' which is the originating site
- name.
-
- --On many posts there is an "NNTP host" field, as well.
-
- The last item in the "Path" header line is the poster; working
- backwards, it lists the hosts the message passed through until it got
- to the server the reader uses. First check on a supposed forgery is
- whether the host that supposedly posted the message is on this list in
- the correct location. However, even if it were that doesn't mean it
- isn't a forgery since wily forgers forge part of the path line before
- slipping the message into the usenet.
-
- The Message-ID: is a unique id number created by the posting
- software. In all cases that we know of, the posting machine's ID is
- appended at the end of it. Sometimes, but not always, this matches the
- poster's account. Sometimes a slightly different machine in the domain
- is used for posting, and may vary slightly. But if the sites in the
- message-ID and the poster's account vary wildly--e.g., netcom.com and
- army.mil--you may be dealing with a forgery.
-
- Some other ideas:
-
- * Check the time stamps; if the site and the time zone don't agree,
- something might be up.
-
- * With experience, you can look at the intermediates on the 'path' and
- spot things that look 'funny'. If a message that purports to have
- come from someone in Detroit, MI, goes bouncing thru half-a-dozen
- sites in EUROPE, before arriving in Chicago, IL -- it's likely its a
- phoney origin. If you have the advantage of knowing about what sites
- are connected to where -- even for a few sites-- you can spot a fake
- if it shows routing between two machines that you *know* don't talk to
- each other.
-
- However, as Steve Patlan cautions: "I posted a message from Austin, TX
- that went through Austria.eu.net (something like that) before reaching
- (a newsfeed received from Rice U in) Houston, TX."
-
- * The "Organization" line, which is usually set by the site's news
- administrator (but can be easily changed by the poster for purposes
- legitimate or devious) may also contain clues. If somebody's trying to
- cause trouble for a particular organization, for instance, they may
- include it, but not get the name or address right.
-
- Of course, if the forger simply forgets to alter the Organization
- line, you may get clues that way also.
-
- For more information on headers, see RFC-1036, "Standard for
- Interchange of Usenet Messages," at
-
- http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc1036.html
-
- (Thanks to Robert Bonomi, Arthur Byrne, Emma Pease, and Alan Bostick
- for most of this information.)
-
- (This entry comes from Indiana University's UCS Knowledge Base.)
-
- 3.3) How can I tell how many newsgroups an article was posted to?
-
- For people who can't use the classic "grepping the newsspool" method,
- nn or nngrab may be able to help. (The following is adapted from a
- posting by Lee Rudolph--thanks.)
-
- You can force the Unix newsreader nn to ignore your .newsrc and create
- a "merged newsgroup" consisting only of articles containing a certain
- word in their subject line. For instance, to gather all articles at
- your site containing the word "spam" in their subject line, use this
- command:
-
- % nngrab spam
-
- That's basically a faster version of
-
- % nn -i -s"spam" -mXx
-
- Caution: this latter method can be a long, tedious process. See the nn
- man page for more details.
-
- 3.4) OK, I'm certain it's spam. Who should I mail-bomb?
-
- Don't mail-bomb anybody. Harrassment is illegal everywhere. If
- somebody's done something truly evil, they'll get enough single
- responses from individuals to acheive the same effect.
-
- 3.5) OK, I'm certain it's spam. What should I do?
-
- * Check a.c-e.n-a. If somebody's already made a definitive spotting,
- there's no sense in an "I've seen it, too" post.
-
- * Include a *complete* header from one copy of the spam in your post
- to a.c-e.n-a. Delete most of the spam itself--content doesn't really
- matter, and most people have probably already seen it. Just summarize
- it briefly.
-
- * Say how many newsgroups at your site it was posted to; list 20 or
- more of them. (See "How do I know how many newsgroups an article was
- posted to?")
-
- * Complain politely to the spammer and the Usenet administrator at the
- spammer's site (whose address should be "usenet@site.name"; if that
- fails, try "postmaster@site.name".) Request that the Usenet
- administrator post a response to news.admin.misc, detailing what
- actions have been taken.
-
- 3.6) What about e-mail spam?
-
- You can always complain about unsolicited e-mail to both the bozo that
- sent it to you and the bozo's postmaster. To write to a postmaster,
- just substitute the perp's username in their address (e.g.,
- bozo@otherwise.lovely.com) with "postmaster" (i.e.,
- postmaster@otherwise.lovely.com.) Please be brief and polite with the
- postmasters, include a copy of the e-mail you received, and leave the
- subject-line intact (in case the postmaster wants to set up an
- auto-responder.)
-
- 3.7) I e-mailed a complaint to so-and-so about their {post, mail}, and
- now they're threatening to complain to my system administrator. What
- should I do?
-
- Let your sys-admin know right away what's happening. Tell them the
- story, briefly. [Include the post(s) in question?] Then keep them
- updated on any further threats.
-
- If you're brief, polite, and on the right side, you can usually find
- an ally in your sys-admin.
-
- 3.8) What is a cancel-bot?
-
- A cancel-bot is a program that sends out cancel messages. Cancel
- messages are normally sent out by a newsreader in response to a user's
- request to cancel a message (e.g., with the 'C' command in trn or 'D'
- in tin) *if* the user was also the original poster of the
- message. Sites will ignore cancel messages that don't appear to come
- from the original poster. Cancel-bots work around this restriction by
- forging header lines that make it look like the original poster sent
- out the cancel; they'll usually add something like a "Cancelled-By"
- [?] header line as well, to keep things nominally above-board.
-
- Use of a cancel-bot against anything besides 'consensus spam' outrages
- people, as it should. See alt.religion.scientology for sample
- discussions.
-
- 3.9) Where can I get me a cancel-bot?
-
- If you have to ask, you should probably wait a while. ;}
-
- 3.10) How do the spam-cancellers cancel spam?
-
- * They make bloody sure they know how to use their cancel-bot;
- * They confirm the spam themselves;
- * They announce their action to a.c-e.n-a. This prevents everyone
- from waiting around and wondering whether anyone's done anything.
-
- Here's a standard section from a cancel-notification post by the
- beloved Cancelmoose(TM):
-
- The $alz cancel. and Path: cyberspam conventions were followed. [The
- $alz convention is to create your cancel message-ID by prepending
- 'cancel.' to the original one. The cyberspam convention is to use-
- 'Path: cyberspam!usenet' so that sites that do not want your cancels
- can easily opt out. Please use these when cancelling spam.]
-
- 3.11) Can I sick The Man on these MAKE.MONEY.FAST losers?
-
- Americans can complain about e-mail or Usenet pyramid schemes to the
- FTC:
-
- STAFF CONTACT: Bureau of Consumer Protection
- David Medine, 202-326-3224
- david.medine@wpo.ftc.gov
-
- Jeffrey S. Markowitz, 202-327-2460
- jeffery.markowitz@wpo.ftc.gov
-
- Before doing so, consider seriously whether you actually want to
- encourage government intervention. The number of 'net cases the FTC
- has been involved in is very low at this point; in an ideal world, it
- would probably remain that way.
-
- GROAN
- =====
-
- 4.1) I hate net-cops like you people in a.c-e.n-a.
-
- Who will watch the watchmen? net-cop.cops like this,
- apparently. ;} Anyways, anyone who wanted to police the net would be a
- pig-headed, unrealistic fool. Thankfully, we just want to shoot spam
- out of the sky, because
-
- * We hate it,
- * It feels good, and
- * We can.
-
- 4.2) Hey, I think my group's being invaded by alt.syntax.tactical!
-
- We're sorry. Please don't bring that subject up again here. Good
- luck... Keith "Justified and Ancient" Cochran, who has been wrongfully
- accused of a.s.t involvement himself, adds: "I would suggest the first
- thing you do is take a chill pill." (Note that there is no second
- thing to do. However, you may want to pass the time reading the
- alt.bigfoot FAQ:
-
- http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/bigfoot/top.html
-
- --particularly the part about cats.)
-
- 4.3) Hey, somebody posted an ad in {newsgroup}!
-
- So?
-
- Alright, alright: first, check to see if the post was obviously forged
- (see "How can I spot a forgery?")
-
- Then check to see if it's spam (see "What is Spam" and "How do I know
- when I've got spam on my hands?") It's probably not. We only want to
- hear about it if it's spam.
-
- If the ad is off-topic, and you really can't let it go, check out the
- advice in "Hey, so-and-so's not being nice in {newsgroup}!"
-
- 4.4) Hey, so-and-so's not being nice in {newsgroup}!
-
- Happens all the time. We don't want to hear about it. However, here
- are some things you can do (written by Keith "Justified and Ancient"
- Cochran):
-
- "The first thing to do is take it up with user@some.site. If you
- can't achieve a mutual understanding, then you _MIGHT_ (note, not
- WILL, _MIGHT_) want to mail postmaster@some.site with your complaint.
- If you are going to write to postmaster@some.site, be sure to include
- the full, unedited post you have a problem with, a short but
- descriptive summary of why you have a problem with it, and a short,
- but descriptive explanation of what you would like to have happen.
-
- "Note that this does not apply to MAKE.MONEY.FAST. If you see a copy
- of M.M.F, just e-mail postmaster@some.site, including the article ID,
- and the first paragraph of the post."
-
- 4.5) Hey, one of those net.cops posted an ad for <something>! Haw! Haw!
-
- ad != spam
-
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